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Hidehiro Kawai
d1645e526a jbd: abort when failed to log metadata buffers
If we failed to write metadata buffers to the journal space and succeeded
to write the commit record, stale data can be written back to the
filesystem as metadata in the recovery phase.

To avoid this, when we failed to write out metadata buffers, abort the
journal before writing the commit record.

Signed-off-by: Hidehiro Kawai <hidehiro.kawai.ez@hitachi.com>
Acked-by: Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>
Cc: <linux-ext4@vger.kernel.org>
Signed-off-by: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
Signed-off-by: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
2008-10-20 08:52:36 -07:00
Nick Piggin
ca5de404ff fs: rename buffer trylock
Like the page lock change, this also requires name change, so convert the
raw test_and_set bitop to a trylock.

Signed-off-by: Nick Piggin <npiggin@suse.de>
Signed-off-by: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
2008-08-04 21:56:09 -07:00
Nick Piggin
529ae9aaa0 mm: rename page trylock
Converting page lock to new locking bitops requires a change of page flag
operation naming, so we might as well convert it to something nicer
(!TestSetPageLocked_Lock => trylock_page, SetPageLocked => set_page_locked).

This also facilitates lockdeping of page lock.

Signed-off-by: Nick Piggin <npiggin@suse.de>
Acked-by: KOSAKI Motohiro <kosaki.motohiro@jp.fujitsu.com>
Acked-by: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
Acked-by: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
Acked-by: Benjamin Herrenschmidt <benh@kernel.crashing.org>
Signed-off-by: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
2008-08-04 21:31:34 -07:00
Hidehiro Kawai
cbe5f466f6 jbd: don't abort if flushing file data failed
In ordered mode, the current jbd aborts the journal if a file data buffer
has an error.  But this behavior is unintended, and we found that it has
been adopted accidentally.

This patch undoes it and just calls printk() instead of aborting the
journal.  Additionally, set AS_EIO into the address_space object of the
failed buffer which is submitted by journal_do_submit_data() so that
fsync() can get -EIO.

Missing error checkings are also added to inform errors on file data
buffers to the user.  The following buffers are targeted.

  (a) the buffer which has already been written out by pdflush
  (b) the buffer which has been unlocked before scanned in the
      t_locked_list loop

[akpm@linux-foundation.org: improve grammar in a printk]
Signed-off-by: Hidehiro Kawai <hidehiro.kawai.ez@hitachi.com>
Acked-by: Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>
Cc: <linux-ext4@vger.kernel.org>
Signed-off-by: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
Signed-off-by: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
2008-07-25 10:53:32 -07:00
Toshiyuki Okajima
fc80c44277 jbd: positively dispose the unmapped data buffers in journal_commit_transaction()
After ext3-ordered files are truncated, there is a possibility that the
pages which cannot be estimated still remain.  Remaining pages can be
released when the system has really few memory.  So, it is not memory
leakage.  But the resource management software etc.  may not work
correctly.

It is possible that journal_unmap_buffer() cannot release the buffers, and
the pages to which they belong because they are attached to a commiting
transaction and journal_unmap_buffer() cannot release them.  To release
such the buffers and the pages later, journal_unmap_buffer() leaves it to
journal_commit_transaction().  (journal_unmap_buffer() puts the mark
'BH_Freed' to the buffers so that journal_commit_transaction() can
identify whether they can be released or not.)

In the journalled mode and the writeback mode, jbd does with only metadata
buffers.  But in the ordered mode, jbd does with metadata buffers and also
data buffers.

Actually, journal_commit_transaction() releases only the metadata buffers
of which release is demanded by journal_unmap_buffer(), and also releases
the pages to which they belong if possible.

As a result, the data buffers of which release is demanded by
journal_unmap_buffer() remain after a transaction commits.  And also the
pages to which they belong remain.

Such the remained pages don't have mapping any longer.  Due to this fact,
there is a possibility that the pages which cannot be estimated remain.

The metadata buffers marked 'BH_Freed' and the pages to which
they belong can be released at 'JBD: commit phase 7'.

Therefore, by applying the same code into 'JBD: commit phase 2' (where the
data buffers are done with), journal_commit_transaction() can also release
the data buffers marked 'BH_Freed' and the pages to which they belong.

As a result, all the buffers marked 'BH_Freed' can be released, and also
all the pages to which these buffers belong can be released at
journal_commit_transaction().  So, the page which cannot be estimated is
lost.

<<Excerpt of code at 'JBD: commit phase 7'>>
 >         spin_lock(&journal->j_list_lock);
 >         while (commit_transaction->t_forget) {
 >                 transaction_t *cp_transaction;
 >                 struct buffer_head *bh;
 >
 >                 jh = commit_transaction->t_forget;
 >...
 >                 if (buffer_freed(bh)) {
 >                 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
 >                         clear_buffer_freed(bh);
 >                        ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
 >                         clear_buffer_jbddirty(bh);
 >                 }
 >
 >                 if (buffer_jbddirty(bh)) {
 >                         JBUFFER_TRACE(jh, "add to new checkpointing trans");
 >                         __journal_insert_checkpoint(jh, commit_transaction);
 >                         JBUFFER_TRACE(jh, "refile for checkpoint writeback");
 >                         __journal_refile_buffer(jh);
 >                         jbd_unlock_bh_state(bh);
 >                 } else {
 >                         J_ASSERT_BH(bh, !buffer_dirty(bh));
 > ...
 >                         JBUFFER_TRACE(jh, "refile or unfile freed buffer");
 >                         __journal_refile_buffer(jh);
 >                         if (!jh->b_transaction) {
 >                                 jbd_unlock_bh_state(bh);
 >                                  /* needs a brelse */
 >                                 journal_remove_journal_head(bh);
 >                                 release_buffer_page(bh);
 >                                 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
 >                         } else
 >                 }
****************************************************************
* Apply the code of "^^^^^^" lines into 'JBD: commit phase 2' *
****************************************************************

At journal_commit_transaction() code, there is one extra message in the
series of jbd debug messages.  ("JBD: commit phase 2") This patch fixes
it, too.

Signed-off-by: Toshiyuki Okajima <toshi.okajima@jp.fujitsu.com>
Acked-by: Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>
Cc: <linux-ext4@vger.kernel.org>
Signed-off-by: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
Signed-off-by: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
2008-07-25 10:53:32 -07:00
Mingming Cao
772279c5f1 jbd: need to hold j_state_lock to updates to transaction t_state to T_COMMIT
Updating the current transaction's t_state is protected by j_state_lock.  We
need to do the same when updating the t_state to T_COMMIT.

Signed-off-by: Mingming Cao <cmm@us.ibm.com>
Acked-by: Jan Kara <jack@ucw.cz>
Signed-off-by: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
Signed-off-by: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
2008-05-14 19:11:14 -07:00
Josef Bacik
5b9a499d77 jbd: fix possible journal overflow issues
There are several cases where the running transaction can get buffers added to
its BJ_Metadata list which it never dirtied, which makes its t_nr_buffers
counter end up larger than its t_outstanding_credits counter.

This will cause issues when starting new transactions as while we are logging
buffers we decrement t_outstanding_buffers, so when t_outstanding_buffers goes
negative, we will report that we need less space in the journal than we
actually need, so transactions will be started even though there may not be
enough room for them.  In the worst case scenario (which admittedly is almost
impossible to reproduce) this will result in the journal running out of space.

The fix is to only
refile buffers from the committing transaction to the running transactions
BJ_Modified list when b_modified is set on that journal, which is the only way
to be sure if the running transaction has modified that buffer.

This patch also fixes an accounting error in journal_forget, it is possible
that we can call journal_forget on a buffer without having modified it, only
gotten write access to it, so instead of freeing a credit, we only do so if
the buffer was modified.  The assert will help catch if this problem occurs.
Without these two patches I could hit this assert within minutes of running
postmark, with them this issue no longer arises.  Thank you,

Signed-off-by: Josef Bacik <jbacik@redhat.com>
Cc: <linux-ext4@vger.kernel.org>
Acked-by: Jan Kara <jack@ucw.cz>
Signed-off-by: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
Signed-off-by: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
2008-04-28 08:58:44 -07:00
Josef Bacik
5bc833feaa jbd: fix the way the b_modified flag is cleared
Currently at the start of a journal commit we loop through all of the buffers
on the committing transaction and clear the b_modified flag (the flag that is
set when a transaction modifies the buffer) under the j_list_lock.

The problem is that everywhere else this flag is modified only under the jbd
lock buffer flag, so it will race with a running transaction who could
potentially set it, and have it unset by the committing transaction.

This is also a big waste, you can have several thousands of buffers that you
are clearing the modified flag on when you may not need to.  This patch
removes this code and instead clears the b_modified flag upon entering
do_get_write_access/journal_get_create_access, so if that transaction does
indeed use the buffer then it will be accounted for properly, and if it does
not then we know we didn't use it.

That will be important for the next patch in this series.  Tested thoroughly
by myself using postmark/iozone/bonnie++.

Signed-off-by: Josef Bacik <jbacik@redhat.com>
Cc: <linux-ext4@vger.kernel.org>
Acked-by: Jan Kara <jack@ucw.cz>
Signed-off-by: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
Signed-off-by: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
2008-04-28 08:58:44 -07:00
Jan Kara
5315217efe [PATCH] jbd: Remove useless loop when writing commit record
Commit block was intended to have several copies of the header. But
due to a bug it never had them and actually, nobody checks that. So
just remove the useless loop.

Signed-off-by: Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>
Signed-off-by: "Theodore Ts'o" <tytso@mit.edu>
2008-02-01 08:26:46 -05:00
Neil Brown
28ae094c62 ext3 can fail badly when device stops accepting BIO_RW_BARRIER requests
Some devices - notably dm and md - can change their behaviour in response
to BIO_RW_BARRIER requests.  They might start out accepting such requests
but on reconfiguration, they find out that they cannot any more.

ext3 (and other filesystems) deal with this by always testing if
BIO_RW_BARRIER requests fail with EOPNOTSUPP, and retrying the write
requests without the barrier (probably after waiting for any pending writes
to complete).

However there is a bug in the handling for this for ext3.

When ext3 (jbd actually) decides to submit a BIO_RW_BARRIER request, it
sets the buffer_ordered flag on the buffer head.  If the request completes
successfully, the flag STAYS SET.

Other code might then write the same buffer_head after the device has been
reconfigured to not accept barriers.  This write will then fail, but the
"other code" is not ready to handle EOPNOTSUPP errors and the error will be
treated as fatal.

This can be seen without having to reconfigure a device at exactly the
wrong time by putting:

		if (buffer_ordered(bh))
			printk("OH DEAR, and ordered buffer\n");

in the while loop in "commit phase 5" of journal_commit_transaction.

If it ever prints the "OH DEAR ..." message (as it does sometimes for
me), then that request could (in different circumstances) have failed
with EOPNOTSUPP, but that isn't tested for.

My proposed fix is to clear the buffer_ordered flag after it has been
used, as in the following patch.

Signed-off-by: Neil Brown <neilb@suse.de>
Cc: <linux-ext4@vger.kernel.org>
Signed-off-by: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
Signed-off-by: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
2008-02-08 09:22:44 -08:00
Nick Piggin
95c354fe9f spinlock: lockbreak cleanup
The break_lock data structure and code for spinlocks is quite nasty.
Not only does it double the size of a spinlock but it changes locking to
a potentially less optimal trylock.

Put all of that under CONFIG_GENERIC_LOCKBREAK, and introduce a
__raw_spin_is_contended that uses the lock data itself to determine whether
there are waiters on the lock, to be used if CONFIG_GENERIC_LOCKBREAK is
not set.

Rename need_lockbreak to spin_needbreak, make it use spin_is_contended to
decouple it from the spinlock implementation, and make it typesafe (rwlocks
do not have any need_lockbreak sites -- why do they even get bloated up
with that break_lock then?).

Signed-off-by: Nick Piggin <npiggin@suse.de>
Signed-off-by: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>
Signed-off-by: Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>
2008-01-30 13:31:20 +01:00
Jan Kara
d4beaf4ab5 jbd: Fix assertion failure in fs/jbd/checkpoint.c
Before we start committing a transaction, we call
__journal_clean_checkpoint_list() to cleanup transaction's written-back
buffers.

If this call happens to remove all of them (and there were already some
buffers), __journal_remove_checkpoint() will decide to free the transaction
because it isn't (yet) a committing transaction and soon we fail some
assertion - the transaction really isn't ready to be freed :).

We change the check in __journal_remove_checkpoint() to free only a
transaction in T_FINISHED state.  The locking there is subtle though (as
everywhere in JBD ;().  We use j_list_lock to protect the check and a
subsequent call to __journal_drop_transaction() and do the same in the end
of journal_commit_transaction() which is the only place where a transaction
can get to T_FINISHED state.

Probably I'm too paranoid here and such locking is not really necessary -
checkpoint lists are processed only from log_do_checkpoint() where a
transaction must be already committed to be processed or from
__journal_clean_checkpoint_list() where kjournald itself calls it and thus
transaction cannot change state either.  Better be safe if something
changes in future...

Signed-off-by: Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>
Cc: <linux-ext4@vger.kernel.org>
Signed-off-by: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
Signed-off-by: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
2007-12-05 09:21:20 -08:00
Jan Kara
7a266e75cf jbd: fix commit code to properly abort journal
We should really call journal_abort() and not __journal_abort_hard() in
case of errors.  The latter call does not record the error in the journal
superblock and thus filesystem won't be marked as with errors later (and
user could happily mount it without any warning).

Signed-off-by: Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>
Cc: <linux-ext4@vger.kernel.org>
Signed-off-by: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
Signed-off-by: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
2007-10-19 11:53:35 -07:00
Mingming Cao
c089d490df JBD: JBD slab allocation cleanups
JBD: Replace slab allocations with page allocations

JBD allocate memory for committed_data and frozen_data from slab. However
JBD should not pass slab pages down to the block layer. Use page allocator pages instead. This will also prepare JBD for the large blocksize patchset.

Signed-off-by: Christoph Lameter <clameter@sgi.com>
Signed-off-by: Mingming Cao <cmm@us.ibm.com>
2007-10-17 18:49:56 -04:00
Jan Kara
fe28e42b99 jbd commit: fix transaction dropping
We have to check that also the second checkpoint list is non-empty before
dropping the transaction.

Signed-off-by: Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>
Cc: Chuck Ebbert <cebbert@redhat.com>
Cc: Kirill Korotaev <dev@openvz.org>
Cc: <linux-ext4@vger.kernel.org>
Cc: <stable@kernel.org>
Signed-off-by: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
Signed-off-by: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
2007-07-16 09:05:34 -07:00
Randy Dunlap
e63340ae6b header cleaning: don't include smp_lock.h when not used
Remove includes of <linux/smp_lock.h> where it is not used/needed.
Suggested by Al Viro.

Builds cleanly on x86_64, i386, alpha, ia64, powerpc, sparc,
sparc64, and arm (all 59 defconfigs).

Signed-off-by: Randy Dunlap <randy.dunlap@oracle.com>
Signed-off-by: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
Signed-off-by: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
2007-05-08 11:15:07 -07:00
Hisashi Hifumi
6f5a9da1af [PATCH] jbd: wait for already submitted t_sync_datalist buffer to complete
In the current jbd code, if a buffer on BJ_SyncData list is dirty and not
locked, the buffer is refiled to BJ_Locked list, submitted to the IO and
waited for IO completion.

But the fsstress test showed the case that when a buffer was already
submitted to the IO just before the buffer_dirty(bh) check, the buffer was
not waited for IO completion.

Following patch solves this problem.  If it is assumed that a buffer is
submitted to the IO before the buffer_dirty(bh) check and still being
written to disk, this buffer is refiled to BJ_Locked list.

Signed-off-by: Hisashi Hifumi <hifumi.hisashi@oss.ntt.co.jp>
Cc: Jan Kara <jack@ucw.cz>
Cc: "Stephen C. Tweedie" <sct@redhat.com>
Cc: <linux-ext4@vger.kernel.org>
Signed-off-by: Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>
Signed-off-by: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@osdl.org>
2006-12-22 08:55:51 -08:00
Uwe Zeisberger
f30c226954 fix file specification in comments
Many files include the filename at the beginning, serveral used a wrong one.

Signed-off-by: Uwe Zeisberger <Uwe_Zeisberger@digi.com>
Signed-off-by: Adrian Bunk <bunk@stusta.de>
2006-10-03 23:01:26 +02:00
Jan Kara
3998b9301d [PATCH] jbd: fix commit of ordered data buffers
Original commit code assumes, that when a buffer on BJ_SyncData list is
locked, it is being written to disk.  But this is not true and hence it can
lead to a potential data loss on crash.  Also the code didn't count with
the fact that journal_dirty_data() can steal buffers from committing
transaction and hence could write buffers that no longer belong to the
committing transaction.  Finally it could possibly happen that we tried
writing out one buffer several times.

The patch below tries to solve these problems by a complete rewrite of the
data commit code.  We go through buffers on t_sync_datalist, lock buffers
needing write out and store them in an array.  Buffers are also immediately
refiled to BJ_Locked list or unfiled (if the write out is completed).  When
the array is full or we have to block on buffer lock, we submit all
accumulated buffers for IO.

[suitable for 2.6.18.x around the 2.6.19-rc2 timeframe]

Signed-off-by: Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>
Cc: Badari Pulavarty <pbadari@us.ibm.com>
Cc: <stable@kernel.org>
Signed-off-by: Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>
Signed-off-by: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@osdl.org>
2006-09-26 08:48:44 -07:00
Badari Pulavarty
ea817398e6 [PATCH] Manage jbd allocations from its own slabs
JBD currently allocates commit and frozen buffers from slabs.  With
CONFIG_SLAB_DEBUG, its possible for an allocation to cross the page
boundary causing IO problems.

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=200127

So, instead of allocating these from regular slabs - manage allocation from
its own slabs and disable slab debug for these slabs.

[akpm@osdl.org: cleanups]
Signed-off-by: Badari Pulavarty <pbadari@us.ibm.com>
Signed-off-by: Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>
Signed-off-by: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@osdl.org>
2006-08-27 11:01:32 -07:00
Jan Kara
9ada734098 [PATCH] jbd: fix BUG in journal_commit_transaction()
Fix possible assertion failure in journal_commit_transaction() on
jh->b_next_transaction == NULL (when we are processing BJ_Forget list and
buffer is not jbddirty).

!jbddirty buffers can be placed on BJ_Forget list for example by
journal_forget() or by __dispose_buffer() - generally such buffer means
that it has been freed by this transaction.

Freed buffers should not be reallocated until the transaction has committed
(that's why we have the assertion there) but they *can* be reallocated when
the transaction has already been committed to disk and we are just
processing the BJ_Forget list (as soon as we remove b_committed_data from
the bitmap bh, ext3 will be able to reallocate buffers freed by the
committing transaction).  So we have to also count with the case that the
buffer has been reallocated and b_next_transaction has been already set.

And one more subtle point: it can happen that we manage to reallocate the
buffer and also mark it jbddirty.  Then we also add the freed buffer to the
checkpoint list of the committing trasaction.  But that should do no harm.

Non-jbddirty buffers should be filed to BJ_Reserved and not BJ_Metadata
list.  It can actually happen that we refile such buffers during the commit
phase when we reallocate in the running transaction blocks deleted in
committing transaction (and that can happen if the committing transaction
already wrote all the data and is just cleaning up BJ_Forget list).

Signed-off-by: Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>
Acked-by: "Stephen C. Tweedie" <sct@redhat.com>
Signed-off-by: Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>
Signed-off-by: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@osdl.org>
2006-06-23 07:43:04 -07:00
Mark Fasheh
7c8903f637 [PATCH] jbd: revert checkpoint list changes
This patch reverts commit f93ea411b7:
  [PATCH] jbd: split checkpoint lists

This broke journal_flush() for OCFS2, which is its method of being sure
that metadata is sent to disk for another node.

And two related commits 8d3c7fce2d and
43c3e6f5ab with the subjects:
  [PATCH] jbd: log_do_checkpoint fix
  [PATCH] jbd: remove_transaction fix

These seem to be incremental bugfixes on the original patch and as such are
no longer needed.

Signed-off-by: Mark Fasheh <mark.fasheh@oracle.com>
Cc: Jan Kara <jack@ucw.cz>
Signed-off-by: Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>
Signed-off-by: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@osdl.org>
2006-02-14 16:09:34 -08:00
Jan Kara
43c3e6f5ab [PATCH] jbd: remove_transaction fix
We have to check that also the second checkpoint list is non-empty before
dropping the transaction.

Signed-off-by: Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>
Signed-off-by: Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>
Signed-off-by: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@osdl.org>
2006-01-18 19:20:16 -08:00
Jesper Juhl
f99d49adf5 [PATCH] kfree cleanup: fs
This is the fs/ part of the big kfree cleanup patch.

Remove pointless checks for NULL prior to calling kfree() in fs/.

Signed-off-by: Jesper Juhl <jesper.juhl@gmail.com>
Signed-off-by: Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>
Signed-off-by: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@osdl.org>
2005-11-07 07:54:06 -08:00
Jan Kara
26707699b5 [PATCH] Change ll_rw_block() calls in JBD
We must be sure that the current data in buffer are sent to disk.  Hence we
have to call ll_rw_block() with SWRITE.

Signed-off-by: Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>
Signed-off-by: Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>
Signed-off-by: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@osdl.org>
2005-09-07 16:57:55 -07:00
Jan Kara
e6c9f5c188 [PATCH] Fix JBD race in t_forget list handling
Fix race between journal_commit_transaction() and other places as
journal_unmap_buffer() that are adding buffers to transaction's t_forget list.
 We have to protect against such places by holding j_list_lock even when
traversing the t_forget list.  The fact that other places can only add buffers
to the list makes the locking easier.  OTOH the lock ranking complicates the
stuff...

Signed-off-by: Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>
Signed-off-by: Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>
Signed-off-by: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@osdl.org>
2005-09-07 16:57:54 -07:00
Linus Torvalds
1da177e4c3 Linux-2.6.12-rc2
Initial git repository build. I'm not bothering with the full history,
even though we have it. We can create a separate "historical" git
archive of that later if we want to, and in the meantime it's about
3.2GB when imported into git - space that would just make the early
git days unnecessarily complicated, when we don't have a lot of good
infrastructure for it.

Let it rip!
2005-04-16 15:20:36 -07:00