Same as other ip tunnel, use dst_cache in xmit action to avoid
unnecessary fib lookups.
Signed-off-by: Haishuang Yan <yanhaishuang@cmss.chinamobile.com>
Signed-off-by: David S. Miller <davem@davemloft.net>
Based on 1 normalized pattern(s):
this program is free software you can redistribute it and or modify
it under the terms of the gnu general public license as published by
the free software foundation either version 2 of the license or at
your option any later version
extracted by the scancode license scanner the SPDX license identifier
GPL-2.0-or-later
has been chosen to replace the boilerplate/reference in 3029 file(s).
Signed-off-by: Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>
Reviewed-by: Allison Randal <allison@lohutok.net>
Cc: linux-spdx@vger.kernel.org
Link: https://lkml.kernel.org/r/20190527070032.746973796@linutronix.de
Signed-off-by: Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>
VRF netdev mtu isn't typically set and have an mtu of 65536. When the
link of a tunnel is set, the tunnel mtu is changed from 1480 to the link
mtu minus tunnel header. In the case of VRF netdev is the link, then the
tunnel mtu becomes 65516. So, fix it by not setting the tunnel mtu in
this case.
Signed-off-by: Stephen Suryaputra <ssuryaextr@gmail.com>
Reviewed-by: David Ahern <dsahern@gmail.com>
Signed-off-by: David S. Miller <davem@davemloft.net>
If we disabled IPv6 from the kernel command line (ipv6.disable=1), we should
not call ip6_err_gen_icmpv6_unreach(). This:
ip link add sit1 type sit local 192.0.2.1 remote 192.0.2.2 ttl 1
ip link set sit1 up
ip addr add 198.51.100.1/24 dev sit1
ping 198.51.100.2
if IPv6 is disabled at boot time, will crash the kernel.
v2: there's no need to use in6_dev_get(), use __in6_dev_get() instead,
as we only need to check that idev exists and we are under
rcu_read_lock() (from netif_receive_skb_internal()).
Reported-by: Jianlin Shi <jishi@redhat.com>
Fixes: ca15a078bd ("sit: generate icmpv6 error when receiving icmpv4 error")
Cc: Oussama Ghorbel <ghorbel@pivasoftware.com>
Signed-off-by: Hangbin Liu <liuhangbin@gmail.com>
Reviewed-by: Stefano Brivio <sbrivio@redhat.com>
Signed-off-by: David S. Miller <davem@davemloft.net>
KMSAN detected read beyond end of buffer in vti and sit devices when
passing truncated packets with PF_PACKET. The issue affects additional
ip tunnel devices.
Extend commit 76c0ddd8c3 ("ip6_tunnel: be careful when accessing the
inner header") and commit ccfec9e5cb ("ip_tunnel: be careful when
accessing the inner header").
Move the check to a separate helper and call at the start of each
ndo_start_xmit function in net/ipv4 and net/ipv6.
Minor changes:
- convert dev_kfree_skb to kfree_skb on error path,
as dev_kfree_skb calls consume_skb which is not for error paths.
- use pskb_network_may_pull even though that is pedantic here,
as the same as pskb_may_pull for devices without llheaders.
- do not cache ipv6 hdrs if used only once
(unsafe across pskb_may_pull, was more relevant to earlier patch)
Reported-by: syzbot <syzkaller@googlegroups.com>
Signed-off-by: Willem de Bruijn <willemb@google.com>
Signed-off-by: David S. Miller <davem@davemloft.net>
(the parameters in question are mark and flow_flags)
Reviewed-by: David Ahern <dsahern@gmail.com>
Signed-off-by: Maciej Żenczykowski <maze@google.com>
Signed-off-by: David S. Miller <davem@davemloft.net>
(the parameters in question are mark and flow_flags)
Reviewed-by: David Ahern <dsahern@gmail.com>
Signed-off-by: Maciej Żenczykowski <maze@google.com>
Signed-off-by: David S. Miller <davem@davemloft.net>
Synchronous pernet_operations are not allowed anymore.
All are asynchronous. So, drop the structure member.
Signed-off-by: Kirill Tkhai <ktkhai@virtuozzo.com>
Signed-off-by: David S. Miller <davem@davemloft.net>
fallback tunnels (like tunl0, gre0, gretap0, erspan0, sit0,
ip6tnl0, ip6gre0) are automatically created when the corresponding
module is loaded.
These tunnels are also automatically created when a new network
namespace is created, at a great cost.
In many cases, netns are used for isolation purposes, and these
extra network devices are a waste of resources. We are using
thousands of netns per host, and hit the netns creation/delete
bottleneck a lot. (Many thanks to Kirill for recent work on this)
Add a new sysctl so that we can opt-out from this automatic creation.
Note that these tunnels are still created for the initial namespace,
to be the least intrusive for typical setups.
Tested:
lpk43:~# cat add_del_unshare.sh
for i in `seq 1 40`
do
(for j in `seq 1 100` ; do unshare -n /bin/true >/dev/null ; done) &
done
wait
lpk43:~# echo 0 >/proc/sys/net/core/fb_tunnels_only_for_init_net
lpk43:~# time ./add_del_unshare.sh
real 0m37.521s
user 0m0.886s
sys 7m7.084s
lpk43:~# echo 1 >/proc/sys/net/core/fb_tunnels_only_for_init_net
lpk43:~# time ./add_del_unshare.sh
real 0m4.761s
user 0m0.851s
sys 1m8.343s
lpk43:~#
Signed-off-by: Eric Dumazet <edumazet@google.com>
Signed-off-by: David S. Miller <davem@davemloft.net>
All of the conflicts were cases of overlapping changes.
In net/core/devlink.c, we have to make care that the
resouce size_params have become a struct member rather
than a pointer to such an object.
Signed-off-by: David S. Miller <davem@davemloft.net>
Commit 128bb975dc ("ip6_gre: init dev->mtu and dev->hard_header_len
correctly") fixed IFLA_MTU ignored on NEWLINK for ip6_gre. The same
mtu fix is also needed for sit.
Note that dev->hard_header_len setting for sit works fine, no need to
fix it. sit is actually ipv4 tunnel, it can't call ip6_tnl_change_mtu
to set mtu.
Reported-by: Jianlin Shi <jishi@redhat.com>
Signed-off-by: Xin Long <lucien.xin@gmail.com>
Signed-off-by: David S. Miller <davem@davemloft.net>
These pernet_operations are similar to ip6_tnl_net_ops. Exit method
unregisters all net sit devices, and it looks like another
pernet_operations are not interested in foreign net sit list.
Init method registers netdevice. So, it's possible to mark them async.
Signed-off-by: Kirill Tkhai <ktkhai@virtuozzo.com>
Signed-off-by: David S. Miller <davem@davemloft.net>
gcc-8 has a new warning that detects overlapping input and output arguments
in memcpy(). It triggers for sit_init_net() calling ipip6_tunnel_clone_6rd(),
which is actually correct:
net/ipv6/sit.c: In function 'sit_init_net':
net/ipv6/sit.c:192:3: error: 'memcpy' source argument is the same as destination [-Werror=restrict]
The problem here is that the logic detecting the memcpy() arguments finds them
to be the same, but the conditional that tests for the input and output of
ipip6_tunnel_clone_6rd() to be identical is not a compile-time constant.
We know that netdev_priv(t->dev) is the same as t for a tunnel device,
and comparing "dev" directly here lets the compiler figure out as well
that 'dev == sitn->fb_tunnel_dev' when called from sit_init_net(), so
it no longer warns.
This code is old, so Cc stable to make sure that we don't get the warning
for older kernels built with new gcc.
Cc: Martin Sebor <msebor@gmail.com>
Link: https://gcc.gnu.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=83456
Signed-off-by: Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>
Signed-off-by: David S. Miller <davem@davemloft.net>
Some dst_ops (e.g. md_dst_ops)) doesn't set this handler. It may result to:
"BUG: unable to handle kernel NULL pointer dereference at (null)"
Let's add a helper to check if update_pmtu is available before calling it.
Fixes: 52a589d51f ("geneve: update skb dst pmtu on tx path")
Fixes: a93bf0ff44 ("vxlan: update skb dst pmtu on tx path")
CC: Roman Kapl <code@rkapl.cz>
CC: Xin Long <lucien.xin@gmail.com>
Signed-off-by: Nicolas Dichtel <nicolas.dichtel@6wind.com>
Signed-off-by: David S. Miller <davem@davemloft.net>
After parsing the sit netlink change info, we forget to update frag_off in
ipip6_tunnel_update(). Fix it by assigning frag_off with new value.
Reported-by: Jianlin Shi <jishi@redhat.com>
Signed-off-by: Hangbin Liu <liuhangbin@gmail.com>
Acked-by: Nicolas Dichtel <nicolas.dichtel@6wind.com>
Signed-off-by: David S. Miller <davem@davemloft.net>
Using SIT tunnels with VRFs works fine if the underlay device is in a
VRF and the link parameter is set to the VRF device. e.g.,
ip tunnel add jtun mode sit remote <addr> local <addr> dev myvrf
Update the device check to allow the link to be the enslaved device as
well. e.g.,
ip tunnel add jtun mode sit remote <addr> local <addr> dev eth4
where eth4 is enslaved to myvrf.
Reported-by: Jeff Barnhill <0xeffeff@gmail.com>
Signed-off-by: David Ahern <dsahern@gmail.com>
Signed-off-by: David S. Miller <davem@davemloft.net>
Add support for extended error reporting.
Signed-off-by: Matthias Schiffer <mschiffer@universe-factory.net>
Acked-by: David Ahern <dsahern@gmail.com>
Signed-off-by: David S. Miller <davem@davemloft.net>
Add support for extended error reporting.
Signed-off-by: Matthias Schiffer <mschiffer@universe-factory.net>
Acked-by: David Ahern <dsahern@gmail.com>
Signed-off-by: David S. Miller <davem@davemloft.net>
Add support for extended error reporting.
Signed-off-by: Matthias Schiffer <mschiffer@universe-factory.net>
Acked-by: David Ahern <dsahern@gmail.com>
Signed-off-by: David S. Miller <davem@davemloft.net>
The memory allocation size is controlled by user-space,
if it is too large just fail silently and return NULL,
not to mention there is a fallback allocation later.
Reported-by: Andrey Konovalov <andreyknvl@google.com>
Signed-off-by: Cong Wang <xiyou.wangcong@gmail.com>
Tested-by: Andrey Konovalov <andreyknvl@google.com>
Signed-off-by: David S. Miller <davem@davemloft.net>
Network devices can allocate reasources and private memory using
netdev_ops->ndo_init(). However, the release of these resources
can occur in one of two different places.
Either netdev_ops->ndo_uninit() or netdev->destructor().
The decision of which operation frees the resources depends upon
whether it is necessary for all netdev refs to be released before it
is safe to perform the freeing.
netdev_ops->ndo_uninit() presumably can occur right after the
NETDEV_UNREGISTER notifier completes and the unicast and multicast
address lists are flushed.
netdev->destructor(), on the other hand, does not run until the
netdev references all go away.
Further complicating the situation is that netdev->destructor()
almost universally does also a free_netdev().
This creates a problem for the logic in register_netdevice().
Because all callers of register_netdevice() manage the freeing
of the netdev, and invoke free_netdev(dev) if register_netdevice()
fails.
If netdev_ops->ndo_init() succeeds, but something else fails inside
of register_netdevice(), it does call ndo_ops->ndo_uninit(). But
it is not able to invoke netdev->destructor().
This is because netdev->destructor() will do a free_netdev() and
then the caller of register_netdevice() will do the same.
However, this means that the resources that would normally be released
by netdev->destructor() will not be.
Over the years drivers have added local hacks to deal with this, by
invoking their destructor parts by hand when register_netdevice()
fails.
Many drivers do not try to deal with this, and instead we have leaks.
Let's close this hole by formalizing the distinction between what
private things need to be freed up by netdev->destructor() and whether
the driver needs unregister_netdevice() to perform the free_netdev().
netdev->priv_destructor() performs all actions to free up the private
resources that used to be freed by netdev->destructor(), except for
free_netdev().
netdev->needs_free_netdev is a boolean that indicates whether
free_netdev() should be done at the end of unregister_netdevice().
Now, register_netdevice() can sanely release all resources after
ndo_ops->ndo_init() succeeds, by invoking both ndo_ops->ndo_uninit()
and netdev->priv_destructor().
And at the end of unregister_netdevice(), we invoke
netdev->priv_destructor() and optionally call free_netdev().
Signed-off-by: David S. Miller <davem@davemloft.net>
This feature allows the administrator to set an fwmark for
packets traversing a tunnel. This allows the use of independent
routing tables for tunneled packets without the use of iptables.
There is no concept of per-packet routing decisions through IPv4
tunnels, so this implementation does not need to work with
per-packet route lookups as the v6 implementation may
(with IP6_TNL_F_USE_ORIG_FWMARK).
Further, since the v4 tunnel ioctls share datastructures
(which can not be trivially modified) with the kernel's internal
tunnel configuration structures, the mark attribute must be stored
in the tunnel structure itself and passed as a parameter when
creating or changing tunnel attributes.
Signed-off-by: Craig Gallek <kraig@google.com>
Signed-off-by: David S. Miller <davem@davemloft.net>
This was entirely automated, using the script by Al:
PATT='^[[:blank:]]*#[[:blank:]]*include[[:blank:]]*<asm/uaccess.h>'
sed -i -e "s!$PATT!#include <linux/uaccess.h>!" \
$(git grep -l "$PATT"|grep -v ^include/linux/uaccess.h)
to do the replacement at the end of the merge window.
Requested-by: Al Viro <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>
Signed-off-by: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
Make struct pernet_operations::id unsigned.
There are 2 reasons to do so:
1)
This field is really an index into an zero based array and
thus is unsigned entity. Using negative value is out-of-bound
access by definition.
2)
On x86_64 unsigned 32-bit data which are mixed with pointers
via array indexing or offsets added or subtracted to pointers
are preffered to signed 32-bit data.
"int" being used as an array index needs to be sign-extended
to 64-bit before being used.
void f(long *p, int i)
{
g(p[i]);
}
roughly translates to
movsx rsi, esi
mov rdi, [rsi+...]
call g
MOVSX is 3 byte instruction which isn't necessary if the variable is
unsigned because x86_64 is zero extending by default.
Now, there is net_generic() function which, you guessed it right, uses
"int" as an array index:
static inline void *net_generic(const struct net *net, int id)
{
...
ptr = ng->ptr[id - 1];
...
}
And this function is used a lot, so those sign extensions add up.
Patch snipes ~1730 bytes on allyesconfig kernel (without all junk
messing with code generation):
add/remove: 0/0 grow/shrink: 70/598 up/down: 396/-2126 (-1730)
Unfortunately some functions actually grow bigger.
This is a semmingly random artefact of code generation with register
allocator being used differently. gcc decides that some variable
needs to live in new r8+ registers and every access now requires REX
prefix. Or it is shifted into r12, so [r12+0] addressing mode has to be
used which is longer than [r8]
However, overall balance is in negative direction:
add/remove: 0/0 grow/shrink: 70/598 up/down: 396/-2126 (-1730)
function old new delta
nfsd4_lock 3886 3959 +73
tipc_link_build_proto_msg 1096 1140 +44
mac80211_hwsim_new_radio 2776 2808 +32
tipc_mon_rcv 1032 1058 +26
svcauth_gss_legacy_init 1413 1429 +16
tipc_bcbase_select_primary 379 392 +13
nfsd4_exchange_id 1247 1260 +13
nfsd4_setclientid_confirm 782 793 +11
...
put_client_renew_locked 494 480 -14
ip_set_sockfn_get 730 716 -14
geneve_sock_add 829 813 -16
nfsd4_sequence_done 721 703 -18
nlmclnt_lookup_host 708 686 -22
nfsd4_lockt 1085 1063 -22
nfs_get_client 1077 1050 -27
tcf_bpf_init 1106 1076 -30
nfsd4_encode_fattr 5997 5930 -67
Total: Before=154856051, After=154854321, chg -0.00%
Signed-off-by: Alexey Dobriyan <adobriyan@gmail.com>
Signed-off-by: David S. Miller <davem@davemloft.net>
Fixes the following sparse warning:
net/ipv6/sit.c:1129:6: warning:
symbol 'ipip6_valid_ip_proto' was not declared. Should it be static?
Signed-off-by: Wei Yongjun <weiyj.lk@gmail.com>
Signed-off-by: David S. Miller <davem@davemloft.net>
This is a preparatory patch for converting qdisc linked list into a
hashtable. As we'll need to include hashtable.h in netdevice.h, we first
have to make sure that this will not introduce symbol conflicts for any of
the netdevice.h users.
Reviewed-by: Cong Wang <xiyou.wangcong@gmail.com>
Signed-off-by: Jiri Kosina <jkosina@suse.cz>
Signed-off-by: David S. Miller <davem@davemloft.net>
Extend the SIT driver to support MPLS over IPv4. This implementation
extends existing support for IPv6 over IPv4 and IPv4 over IPv4.
Signed-off-by: Simon Horman <simon.horman@netronome.com>
Reviewed-by: Dinan Gunawardena <dinan.gunawardena@netronome.com>
Signed-off-by: David S. Miller <davem@davemloft.net>
Several cases of overlapping changes, except the packet scheduler
conflicts which deal with the addition of the free list parameter
to qdisc_enqueue().
Signed-off-by: David S. Miller <davem@davemloft.net>
When receiving an ICMPv4 message containing extensions as
defined in RFC 4884, and translating it to ICMPv6 at SIT
or GRE tunnel, we need some extra manipulation in order
to properly forward the extensions.
This patch only takes care of Time Exceeded messages as they
are the ones that typically carry information from various
routers in a fabric during a traceroute session.
It also avoids complex skb logic if the data_len is not
a multiple of 8.
RFC states :
The "original datagram" field MUST contain at least 128 octets.
If the original datagram did not contain 128 octets, the
"original datagram" field MUST be zero padded to 128 octets.
In practice routers use 128 bytes of original datagram, not more.
Initial translation was added in commit ca15a078bd
("sit: generate icmpv6 error when receiving icmpv4 error")
Signed-off-by: Eric Dumazet <edumazet@google.com>
Cc: Oussama Ghorbel <ghorbel@pivasoftware.com>
Signed-off-by: David S. Miller <davem@davemloft.net>
For better traceroute/mtr support for SIT and GRE tunnels,
we translate IPV4 ICMP ICMP_TIME_EXCEEDED to ICMPV6_TIME_EXCEED
We also have to translate the IPv4 source IP address of ICMP
message to IPv6 v4mapped.
Signed-off-by: Eric Dumazet <edumazet@google.com>
Signed-off-by: David S. Miller <davem@davemloft.net>
We want to use this helper from GRE as well, so this is
the time to move it in net/ipv6/icmp.c
Also add a @nhs parameter, since SIT and GRE have different
values for the header(s) to skip.
Signed-off-by: Eric Dumazet <edumazet@google.com>
Signed-off-by: David S. Miller <davem@davemloft.net>
Since 32b8a8e59c ("sit: add IPv4 over IPv4 support")
ipip6_err() may be called for packets whose IP protocol is
IPPROTO_IPIP as well as those whose IP protocol is IPPROTO_IPV6.
In the case of IPPROTO_IPIP packets the correct protocol value is not
passed to ipv4_update_pmtu() or ipv4_redirect().
This patch resolves this problem by using the IP protocol of the packet
rather than a hard-coded value. This appears to be consistent
with the usage of the protocol of a packet by icmp_socket_deliver()
the caller of ipip6_err().
I was able to exercise the redirect case by using a setup where an ICMP
redirect was received for the destination of the encapsulated packet.
However, it appears that although incorrect the protocol field is not used
in this case and thus no problem manifests. On inspection it does not
appear that a problem will manifest in the fragmentation needed/update pmtu
case either.
In short I believe this is a cosmetic fix. None the less, the use of
IPPROTO_IPV6 seems wrong and confusing.
Reviewed-by: Dinan Gunawardena <dinan.gunawardena@netronome.com>
Signed-off-by: Simon Horman <simon.horman@netronome.com>
Acked-by: YOSHIFUJI Hideaki <yoshfuji@linux-ipv6.org>
Signed-off-by: David S. Miller <davem@davemloft.net>
ipip6_tunnel_xmit() is called immediately after checking that
skb->protocol is htons(ETH_P_IPV6) so there is no need
to check it a second time.
Found by inspection.
Signed-off-by: Simon Horman <simon.horman@netronome.com>
Reviewed-by: Dinan Gunawardena <dinan.gunawardena@netronome.com>
Signed-off-by: David S. Miller <davem@davemloft.net>
This patch defines two new GSO definitions SKB_GSO_IPXIP4 and
SKB_GSO_IPXIP6 along with corresponding NETIF_F_GSO_IPXIP4 and
NETIF_F_GSO_IPXIP6. These are used to described IP in IP
tunnel and what the outer protocol is. The inner protocol
can be deduced from other GSO types (e.g. SKB_GSO_TCPV4 and
SKB_GSO_TCPV6). The GSO types of SKB_GSO_IPIP and SKB_GSO_SIT
are removed (these are both instances of SKB_GSO_IPXIP4).
SKB_GSO_IPXIP6 will be used when support for GSO with IP
encapsulation over IPv6 is added.
Signed-off-by: Tom Herbert <tom@herbertland.com>
Acked-by: Jeff Kirsher <jeffrey.t.kirsher@intel.com>
Signed-off-by: David S. Miller <davem@davemloft.net>
This patch updates the IP tunnel core function iptunnel_handle_offloads so
that we return an int and do not free the skb inside the function. This
actually allows us to clean up several paths in several tunnels so that we
can free the skb at one point in the path without having to have a
secondary path if we are supporting tunnel offloads.
In addition it should resolve some double-free issues I have found in the
tunnels paths as I believe it is possible for us to end up triggering such
an event in the case of fou or gue.
Signed-off-by: Alexander Duyck <aduyck@mirantis.com>
Signed-off-by: David S. Miller <davem@davemloft.net>
If a packet is either locally encapsulated or processed through GRO
it is marked with the offloads that it requires. However, when it is
decapsulated these tunnel offload indications are not removed. This
means that if we receive an encapsulated TCP packet, aggregate it with
GRO, decapsulate, and retransmit the resulting frame on a NIC that does
not support encapsulation, we won't be able to take advantage of hardware
offloads even though it is just a simple TCP packet at this point.
This fixes the problem by stripping off encapsulation offload indications
when packets are decapsulated.
The performance impacts of this bug are significant. In a test where a
Geneve encapsulated TCP stream is sent to a hypervisor, GRO'ed, decapsulated,
and bridged to a VM performance is improved by 60% (5Gbps->8Gbps) as a
result of avoiding unnecessary segmentation at the VM tap interface.
Reported-by: Ramu Ramamurthy <sramamur@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
Fixes: 68c33163 ("v4 GRE: Add TCP segmentation offload for GRE")
Signed-off-by: Jesse Gross <jesse@kernel.org>
Signed-off-by: David S. Miller <davem@davemloft.net>
Part of skb_scrub_packet was open coded in iptunnel_pull_header. Let it call
skb_scrub_packet directly instead.
Signed-off-by: Jiri Benc <jbenc@redhat.com>
Signed-off-by: David S. Miller <davem@davemloft.net>
The current ip_tunnel cache implementation is prone to a race
that will cause the wrong dst to be cached on cuncurrent dst cache
miss and ip tunnel update via netlink.
Replacing with the generic implementation fix the issue.
Signed-off-by: Paolo Abeni <pabeni@redhat.com>
Suggested-and-acked-by: Hannes Frederic Sowa <hannes@stressinduktion.org>
Signed-off-by: David S. Miller <davem@davemloft.net>
All users now pass false, so we can remove it, and remove the code that
was conditional upon it.
Signed-off-by: Edward Cree <ecree@solarflare.com>
Signed-off-by: David S. Miller <davem@davemloft.net>
When creating a SIT tunnel with ip tunnel, rtnl_link_ops is not set before
ipip6_tunnel_create is called. When register_netdevice is called, there is
no linkinfo attribute in the NEWLINK message because of that.
Setting rtnl_link_ops before calling register_netdevice fixes that.
Signed-off-by: Thadeu Lima de Souza Cascardo <cascardo@redhat.com>
Signed-off-by: David S. Miller <davem@davemloft.net>
By moving stats update into iptunnel_xmit(), we can simplify
iptunnel_xmit() usage. With this change there is no need to
call another function (iptunnel_xmit_stats()) to update stats
in tunnel xmit code path.
Signed-off-by: Pravin B Shelar <pshelar@nicira.com>
Signed-off-by: David S. Miller <davem@davemloft.net>